So here it is, friends. One great era in Locus’s life is coming to an end and the other is beginning. We have released Locus Map 3.50, the last in a series of 3.x. The next released version will be the first representative of the fourth generation. Before that happens, let us take a little excursion into history.
Let’s look back to the past first …
Locus Map (originally only Locus) at the beginning of its existence began as a simple app for geocachers. It enabled the display of downloaded caches above the map and simple track recording. Navigation and the possibility of simple route planning were added and the app soon became very popular. Nevertheless, its development and support took more and more time from its author, until it became a full time job. Let’s briefly discuss the following developments in key milestones:
- March 2011 – a paid version – Locus Map Pro – was created
- July 2011 – Locus began using its own vector maps generated from OSM maps – the forerunner of today’s LoMaps:
- May 2012 – the first User Manual
- July 2012 – the first version of the Locus Store launched (called Locus Shop then)
- January 2013 – the ability to connect the app to external sensors using ANT + and Bluetooth added
- June 2014 – the first app of the 3.x series . A new Locus Store is created with its own virtual “currency” – LoCoins :
- December 2014 – Android PIT app store is ending. Locus Map Pro is only available on the Android market (now Google Play). The first offline points of interest (today’s LoPoints) and track recording widget are launched:
- January 2015 – new UI respecting Material design by Google
- March 2015 – we started cooperating with major map publishers, the first being the French IGN , followed by SwissTopo and the German Outdooractive
- August 2015 – the first addon for wearables – SmartWatch 2
- September 2015 – link to a large database of user routes – GPSies.com
- March 2016 – Locus Live tracking – real-time continuous location sharing
- January 2017 – progressive coordinate system What3words implemented
- October 2017 – a brand new route planner taking full advantage of external routers and routing profiles, the first option to back up data to the cloud (Dropbox, Google Drive)
- January 2018 – add-on for Android Wear and Wear OS smart watches
- January 2019 – add-on for smart watches running Tizen – Samsung Gear and Galaxy Watch
- May 2019 – an add-on for the Garmin watches is launched in partnership with Wearsoft:
- February 2020 – a new interactive WMS map library
- May 2020 – database of 7000 routes by Rother added to Locus Store
What now?
Locus Map Pro is now one of the most enhanced applications in its segment and is used not only by outdoor enthusiasts but also by a number of professionals from S&R organizations – Mountain Service, search units, and rescuers. Locus Map Pro in version 3.50 completes this ten-year era. The next version will be called Locus Classic and we will maintain and update it according to the needs of the new versions of Android. However, the main direction of development will lead elsewhere – in the fourth generation of the Locus Map application and the subscribed package of Premium functions.
Version 3.50 of Locus Map Free and Locus Map Pro will be permanently available HERE both in Google Play and Amazon Appstore clones.
… and now boldly into the future!
Two years ago , we indicated the direction which we intend to pursue – there is no more significant improvement in the mobile application, it’s time to spread your wings into the endless space of the Internet. It’s high time to start synchronizing user data over our own cloud, to offer the convenience of route planning on a large PC screen. After disconnecting the GPSies service due to its acquisition by Alltrails, we also need to build our own route database. At the time, we had no idea that it would take us a full two years to implement our plans. But now we are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Locus Map 4 is coming!
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Bonjour,
Excellente application pour les skieurs montagnards, randonneurs et les spéléos.
C’est le CartoExploreur pour Android. Un peu d’apprentissage et ça roule...
Parfaite pour le pointage de cavités, suivi de trace, exportation et importation de fichiers gpx. Tout y est pour ne pas se perdre et exécuter un travail efficace d’inventaire pour la spéléo. Classement par dossiers, personnalisation des icones, informations…etc
On peut créer des cartes personnelles avec des logiciels tiers et les importer dans Locus Map Pro.
Bravo et merci à l’équipe LocusMap…
Das ist schade. Eine App mit einem Abo-Modell kommt für mich nicht in Frage und ich kann mir vorstellen, dass dies auch viele andere Nutzer so sehen werden.
Yes, we know that. But we have to risk it because the current business model would mean the end of Locus Map very soon.
Ich nutze die Pro-Version, eine Abo-Version werde ich nicht nutzen, werde mich nach einer neuen App umschauen...
Also noch ein weiterer Abodienst?
One subscription model for Locus Map 4 plus one single payment model for Locus Classic.
Subscription sucks. Every faithful user who bought the full version of locus should get the premium version to start. Let new users buy subscriptions.
Hi Marek, for the current Pro version users, the LM 4 Premium subscription will be available for a special price.
I truly hope you gonna reconsider a subscription decision and provide an option to just buy it, for a one time price.I hate subscription model with passion, and unlikely to get one even if it costs $0.01 a year.
Damn, this is an end of an era indeed. I've discovered the Locus Pro at a Russian pirated software forum, back in 2011 or close to that, literally about 10 (!!!) years ago, and liked it enough to actually participate in the forum and buy a legit "Pro" almost right way, something I've rarely even done back then as a former pirate (yea, i know, shame on me). Unbelievably, I've been running it on an HTC-HD2 (!!!) with a custom ROM (a legendary device, originally running Windows Mobile, not many remember this device today), asking around of the forum for the features like taking a photo of a map and onboard-calibrating it, and surprisingly, those WERE implemented, and are still in there!
Really sad to see this app going over to the evil side of the net.
Unfortunately, not. Unlike you, pirates, developing apps feeds us and our families, and selling single payment licenses is not sustainable for us any longer.
Kinda understand, in theory (i am a programmer myself, yet i am an employee, making things much simpler on my side), but in real life, look at this from the users side. Aren't YOU totally fed up by everything suddenly requiring a subscription?
This said, at least you are keeping the existing product available, and not trying to charge a subscription for existing functionality (looking at you, IFTTT).
In any case, good luck with the new product.
And THANKS a lot for the existing one.
Thanks Boris. Believe me, we had considered many other ways how to keep our team (and the app development) alive. And the sub has come of it as the best compromise.
Hi Michal.
Me and my girlfriend bought your app.
I understand you want to make money, and we paid the app and some maps updates, but setting up a subscription for an app I use 30 times a year will let us wondering if it is still worth it.
You also have to take into account what's best four your loyal customers.
Pierre
Hi Pierre, then go on and use your Locus Map Pro. It'll still work, it will be updated and maintained as it has been in the previous years.
How much will both subscription cost?
The final price hasn't been agreed yet.
Schön, noch einmal die Historie zu lesen. Ich freue mich auf Neues. Die Ankündigung und eine Meinungsabfrage gab es ja schon vor längerer Zeit. Ich finde es fair, für guten Service und Entwicklung zu zahlen und äußerst sozial, das bisherige Locus in diesem Umfang vorzuhalten. Ich denke da ist für jeden das passende dabei.
Viel Erfolg weiterhin
Thanks Sabine, this is exactly how we mean it. Stay tuned!
Bonjour ,
Je possède locus pro (depuis avril 2016). Actuellement j'ai la dernière version 3.50.0 sur mon smartphone Android ainsi que des cartes. Locus pro est payant. Ma question comment cela va se passer avec la génération 4 de locos pro sur Android faudra t'il l'acheter. Ou aller vous abandonner toute modification(nouvelle version sur google Play). En attendant une réponse de votre part je vous présente mes sincères salutations. Ps: vous pouvez écrire en tchèque, ma femme parle le tchèque car elle vient de la république Tchèque.
Cordialement
Serge Leva Petit scarabée der Elsaser sherpa
Hi Serge, your Locus Map Pro will stay as it is, the same as your maps. Only its next version on Google Play will be called Locus Classic. No need for another purchase, you just update your app and it'll change its name. The current Locus Map Free will change its name to Locus Map and will be available for free. Some part of its features (plus web-related features like cloud sync and planner) will be available for a subscription called Premium.
Soll LocusMap 4 denn tatsächlich als Abo kommen oder für Kunden, die Locus Map gekauft hatten wieder kostenofluchtig werden?
Das wäre ein Schritt zurück.
Hi Randolf, the current Locus Map Free will change its name to Locus Map and will be available for free. Some part of its features (plus web-related features like cloud sync and planner) will be available for a subscription called Premium. Current users of Locus Map Pro will not pay anything more for their app - it'll just change its name to Locus Classic.
Hi Michael,
so you are saying, that the current user of locus maps pro, will update to new v4.xx locus classic and they will have 100% the same capabilities as before, with v3.50.1 pro ????
Exactly, Locus Classic will have the same features as the latest 3.50.1 version of Locus Map Pro.
will it be possible the user install both versions of old locus pro v3.50.1and the new locus classic v4.xx at the same time ? what about the app folders ?
Yes, this will be possible. Folders will be shared.
So what's the difference between Locus Classic and Premium?
Thx alot and Kind regards
Michael
To sum it up, Locus Classic will have all the features the current Locus Map Pro has for a single purchase. Locus Map with Premium subscription will offer the same features as Locus Classic has, even enhanced (better route planner, UI, search, LoPoints etc.) plus data synchronization with our own cloud, the possibility to plan and save routes on a web planner, management of cloud route/track library and other benefits, including LoMaps of the whole world with updates and live tracking in private groups.
Ein Abo Modell muss es geben, damit Locus weiterentwickelt werden kann, denn irgendwann wird der Verkauf der Pro Version abebben (Sättigung) . Die Leute bei Locus müssen ja Geld verdienen um zu Leben.
Auf wichtige Funktionen wie cloud Anbindung warte ich schon sehr lange.
Das treue Pro Kunden hier ein dauerhaft (!) vergünstigtes Abo angeboten bekommen halte ich aber unbedingt für notwendig.
Das wäre das Mindeste! :)
Dobrý deň, chcel by som sa opýtať ako bude pokračovať vývoj smerom k smart hodinkám, či bude ďalej fungovať aplikácia Locus map watch a či nebude v budúcnosti dostupná verzia bez nutnosti pripojenia k smartfonu pri navigácii ?
Ďakujem
Dobrý den Dušane, rádi bychom ve vývoji aplikací do hodinek pokračovali. Zatím k tomu bohužel nemáme lidi a čas :) Ale jakmile pomine blázinec s přechodem na novou verzi, tak se do toho určitě vrhnem.
Dobrý den,
mám zaplacenou licenci Pro. Po uvedení verze 4 budu muset koupit novou licenci, nebo se mi nabídne update na verzi 4 a nebudu muset platit novou licenci?
Děkuji za info.
Michael
Dobrý den Michaeli, držitelé Pro licence dostanou zvýhodněné podmínky pro přestup na Premium předplatné.
Locusmap. Very~~~~~good~~~
로커스 맵으로 인해 산행 이 편안해졌습니다.
Dann nennt doch endlich mal den Preis, vielleicht hat sich das Thema dann für viele (so oder so) schon erledigt.
The price hasn't been agreed yet.
"Routenplanung auf einem großen PC-Bildschirm" hört sich toll an. Davon habe ich bisher weder gelesen noch gehört. Gibt es dazu nähere Infos?
We'll release the testing web interface soon.
I can understand the need to make the app financially viable, I like to eat food and heat my house too, and it seems that there are three ways to make this happen:
1. In app ads. - Nobody wants this!
2. Pay once, use it for life - great if there is no further development of the app - you pays your money and you takes your goods.
2. Subscription model - probably relevant if the app has continued development/improvement
It seems that you'll have different subscriptions based on what the user wants/needs to do with Locus 4. This is probably a sensible approach, as the user pays for what they want (and doesn't pay for what they don't...)
As Locus Maps is such a powerful piece of kit, I'm happy to pay to use it - it's a case of putting costs into perspective. A paper 1:25,000 map here in the UK costs £9.00 (about 10 Euros) and may only be used for one week a year if visiting a new area. With Locus, we are (well, I am anyway) using it several times a week, every week of the year. As my mate Dave says "What is the cost per use?" Cost per use may well be the primary consideration for users. Is Locus worth the cost for the amount I use it?
Finally, the ability to plan routes on a computer/1920x1080 screen it a life saver - nobody (really) likes plotting routes with fat fingers on a glass screen... Even if the youth tell us we do.
Onwards!
Thanks for your kind words! It means a lot of energy for us. As for your points - 1) Ads wouldn't make us live despite we would infest each screen of the app with it, 2) that is unfortunately unsustainable for us as the app is continuously developed and maintained. 3) as you say but, we know, it means a certain risk for us (see other comments here) but we have no other choice. Michal, Locus team
Damn, that the end of an era for sure. If you are going to switch to subscription plans for users who bought pro version I am going to move to pure Garmin vector maps (and brilliant freemap.sk) and a dirrerent app that will hold Compass maps (there are many). You are looking at the wrong direction, guys. Customer lost ...and that's going to be your choice.
Maybe you didn't understand clearly. It is not a switch - Locus Map Pro will continue as a single payment app (albeit renamed to Locus Classic). Subscription is just another way how to get the enhanced features.
Die Motivation für ein Abo Modell ist nachvollziehbar und das würde ich bei entsprechendem Mehrwert unterstützen. Wann kommt denn nun Version 4? Ich bin gespannt. Locusmap ist echt prima. Speziell die Nutzung individueller Brouter Profile ist genial.
Hi, thank you for your approach. The first edition is coming out shortly, it's a matter of weeks now.
A můžete zveřejnit ceny? Možná by se tím trochu uklidnily vášně...
Dobrý den, pochopitelně :) Bohužel finální cena zatím nebyla definitivně stanovena, tak nechceme zveřejňovat něco, co by se následně mohlo změnit.
Bude v plánu nějaký Beta testování nové verze 4. Třeba pro uživatele PRO verze?
Beta testování, které poskytuje Google Play zatím spuštěno není, nicméně testovat je již možné. Odkaz na stažení veřejné beta verze je v tomto vlákně na Locus fóru: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7188.0
So pissed off. Subscription leads to lazy development, money for nothing. Make it a better app, not force me to pay on the chance I will get a better app.
A tak i Locus se sveze na vlně předplatného. Začalo to placením map z podkladů openstreetmap. Ještě bych snad akceptoval platit upgrade za verze, ale předplatné se mi ze zásady příčí. Ale vzhledem k základně, kterou jste si za ty roky vybudovali, to zajisté bude dobrý a výnosný business plán. Nebudete první aplikace kterou jsem po zavedení předplatného musel opustit. Kupodivu se vždy najde další náhrada a mnohdy i stejně kvalitní.
Bohužel kdybychom se "nevezli", znamenalo by to konec vývoje aplikace, stávající model je pro nás již nákladově neudržitelný. Nejde "jen" o vývoj a údržbu aplikace, ale také o placení služeb s aplikací spojených - servery, úložiště, doprovodné služby atd. Placení upgradů za verze bohužel nepodporuje Google, takže musíme volit jinou cestu. Přejeme vám tedy hodně štěstí s jinými, stejně kvalitními aplikacemi.
Ahoj Michale, jen se "vezte", kazdy kdo vyviji poradny sw vi, ze bez tohoto se neda byt nejlepsi. Navic 6-7 stovek rocne je jedna navsteva kina s rodinou (a to ted stejne nejde :))
Spise me zajima, kdy to budu moci zaplatit :) Cyklosezona zacina, mam Locus Map Pro docela slusne nastavenou a chci to prevest do verze 4. Bez synchronizace (konecne!!!) mam ale strach, ze to budu nastavovat dvakrat.
Zdravím Petře, LM4 už běží ve veřejném beta testu, takže do jeho plného spuštění zbývá pár dní. Resp. chceme vydat do konce března. Při přenastavování LM 4 doporučuji využít zálohování, trasy a body LM 4 sdílí s LM Pro.
Weiter so Leute. Ich nutze eure App schon viele Jahre und konnte endliche Menschen von der Nutzung überzeugen. Mit den unterschiedlichsten Fortbewegungsmitteln habe ich immer dorthin gefunden, wo ich hin wollte. Mit jedem selbst gemachten Fehler lernt man für das nächste Abenteuer. Danke dafür.
Ich brachte knapp ein Jahr, um mich für den Kauf der Pro-Version durchzuringen. Heute möchte ich sie nicht mehr missen. Ob ich auf den Zug eines Abo-Systems aufspringen werde, steht noch in den Sternen. Allerdings gönne ich den Entwicklern diese finanziellen Möglichkeiten.
Thank you!
Hello Locus Team!
Thank you for your great work until here! Will the current list of free features of Locus Map Free remain the same for the future free Locus Map?
Hi Michael, yes it will. Plus, it'll have improved UI and other enhancements.
Locus Maps has been the best map software I've used in the last 10 years. I understand why a new business model is needed but unfortunately, for many different reasons, I don't think I'll ever pay for premium functions in a subscription based package I can't own. Buying updated vector maps is OK for example, I did it a couple times with Ordnance Survey maps.
Paying for upgrade modules why not (a 3D rendering of maps for example).
I would easily pay 15 euros if I got the upgrade permanently. .
But well, let's face it, it's a bit like Lightroom entering the subscription and cloud system a few years ago : photographers who use it on a daily basis will pay a subscription. Photographers who take pictures three or four times a year may give up on it.
I'm afraid that's what is going to happen someday to Locus. Average users cycle, travel or hike occasionally. What features will motivate them?
And if previously purchased maps or custom maps become unusable in the future within the 3.5 version due to unwelcome Android changes or become just pay again for use in Locus 4, I don't know, I'm skeptical... Change is inevitable but it seems these days that change is always detrimental less desirable than what we had before.
Hi Sébastien, you don't have to jump on the subscribed model at once. Just keep your Locus Map Pro, it will continue, it will be regularly updated and maintained. Subscription is just another way how to get the most enhanced features of the app. And don't worry, your previously purchased maps or custom maps will never become unusable in any version of Locus.
"um den Komfort der Routenplanung auf einem großen PC-Bildschirm zu erweitern"
Heisst das, wir können demnächst Routen und Tracks auf dem PC planen?
Ja, genau
Mám verzi pro a vůbec mě tenhle trend předplatného netěší. Pokud si něco koupím, rád to vlastním, nikoli že to mám pouze pujceno. Chápu však tyto kroky, peníze prostě nesmrdi....
Locus Map nové generace už ale není pouze aplikace, je s tím spojena řada služeb, které nelze "vlastnit". Udržování serverů, úložišť, opravy, vývoj, to vše je kontinuální proces, který má své náklady. Ty bohužel nelze financovat z jednoho prodeje aplikace. Pro verze vám samozřejmě zůstává bez jakýchkoli dalších nákladů, Navíc, budeme ji nadále zdarma aktualizovat a udržovat.
So you have to buy it again?
The program will be free?
That's ridiculous.
If there is no event for professional users, you will need to refund the purchase cost.
No, you don't have to buy anything again. We've just informed our users that there is going to be another way how to get the most enhanced features of the app (plus something more). Your Locus Map Pro will go on, it'll be updated and maintained for free as in the previous years.
Locus Map ist ein unglaublich gutes Programm und sollte seine Erschaffer auch ernähren können.
Ich nutze ein Abomodell für meine Kachelmann-Wetter-App und bin voll damit zufrieden (bei Bergtouren wichtig). Warum sollte Locus Map dieses Bezahlmodell nicht auch nutzen? Auf meinen Touren verlasse ich mich ja auch darauf.
Falls die Preise vernünftig sind (davon gehe ich aus), bin ich sicher dabei.
Ich drücke Euch die Daumen, dass alles klappt!
Danke sehr Werner!
Dobrý den. Mám zaplacenou verzi Pro. Chci se zeptat, jestli budu nějak upozorněn aplikací, že již existuje verze řady 4. Dále, jak to bude s mapami? Ty co mám zakoupené, stažené a uložené budu moci k aplikaci řady 4 přiřadit, aniž bych byl nucen si mapy pořizovat znovu? O tom, že aplikace ve verzi Pro poběží i nadále, jste informovali již dříve, takže předpokládám, že to stále platí. Děkuji za odpověď.
Dobrý den,
ano, plánujeme dát vědět majitelům Pro verzí, jakmile bude k dispozici 4. generace. Mapy samozřejmě můžete používat nadále ve všech verzích Locusu a ano, Locus Map Pro poběží i nadále, budeme aplikaci pravidelně udržovat a aktualizovat.
Hallo zusammen
Zuallererst herzlichen Dank für die wunderbare App die er in den letzten 10 Jahren entwickelt habt. Ich nutze sie seit vielen Jahren und bin nach wie vor total begeistert. Obwohl ich prinzipiell gegen Abo Versionen bin, werde ich mit Sicherheit auf die neue Version 4.0 umsteigen. Ich wünsche dem gesamten Team für die Zukunft eine glückliche Hand und viel Erfolg.
Herzliche Grüße aus Bayern
Hans
Danke sehr Hans!
Borci, není pravda, že v mobilní aplikaci už nic zásadního vylepšit nejde:)
Máte dost rezervy v použitelnosti, pomalém startu a vyhledávání i routování. Kvůli tomu už z většiny používám mapy.cz.
Vaše největší deviza jsou podle mě kvalitní mapové podklady mimo ČR (kde mapy.cz jsou z OSM), v zahraničí tedy jsou dostupné kvalitnější mapy. Já používám hlavně Kompass v Rakousku a Swiss topo ve Švýcarsku. Nicméně i tam máte mezery: Ani jedno nenabízíte v zimní variantě se skialp cestama, což je v podstatě jediný čas, kdy kupuju mapy, a kupuju si je kvůli tomu v jejich originál appkách, i když vaše app je lepší a jejich jsou naprosto tragické. Mapové podklady prostě přebijou všechno ostatní. Pak je v konkurenci map důležitá podle mě použitelnost, a pak až možnost plánovat přes web, protože úplně v klidu můžu plánovat přes web mapy.cz nebo kompass.de nebo map.geo.admin.ch a exportovat to do jakékoliv app.
Rezervy jsou vždycky, o tom žádná. Taky netvrdíme, že končíme s vývojem aplikace. Naopak. Jen zmíněné webové služby většině uživatelů již mnoho let chybí (určitě znáte stav hlasování na našem helpdesku). Ovšem jejich realizaci a údržbu již ze stávajícího modelu nelze ufinancovat, a to včetně dalšího vývoje aplikace. Ano, pro mnohé jsou kvalitní mapy základ. Nicméně většině bohatě stačí LoMapy a naopak potřebují webové rozhraní na plánování a synchronizaci dat. Co se týče Kompassu a Swisstopo - nabízíme pouze to, co nám poskytují tito poskytovatelé. Ti si bohužel zimní mapy nechávají pouze do svých vlastních aplikací.
Co se týče použitelnosti, vyhledávání i routování, přináší nová generace velký pokrok (viz https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7188.0)
Ich muss sagen, ich finde es Schade, dass es zum Abomodell wird. Werde jedoch dennoch auch von Pro aufs Abo umsteigen, wenn das Preis/Leistungsverhältnis stimmt.
Im Gegensatz zur einmaligen Zahlung für Pro muss ich aber auch sagen, dass ich persönlich bei einem Abomodell andere Ansprüche an die App stelle. Allen voran, dass bei Apps auf Uhren auch die vorhandenen Sensoren in der Trackaufzeichnung eingebunden sind (z.B. Samsung Galaxy Watch -> Pulsmessung, Barometrischer Höhenmesser) Ich hoffe, dass das endlich kommt, dann würde ich sofort auf ein Abomodell umsteigen.
The progress in Locus Map Watch development is certainly on our road plan when we are ready with the next generation launch.
Dobrý den, kdy předpokládáte spuštění nové verze Locus Map 4 pro běžné uživatele a je možné se nějak zapojit do testování?
Dobrý den, očekáváme to v řádu týdnů. Novou verzi již můžete otestovat, zatím to ovšem není oficiální přes Google Play: https://forum.locusmap.eu/index.php?topic=7188.0
Hallo. ich nutze Locusmap seit Jahren erfolgreich und gerne und freue mich auf die vierte Generation. Ich fände es toll, wenn es auch eine Portierung aus iOS geben würde. Grüße.
Hi Stefan, thanks for your support! IOS version is not completely excluded from our road plan. We'll see how the subs will be successful. If yes and we raise enough funds to build an iOS team, maybe in a few years, Locus Map on iOS will become reality :)
Bon logiciel
Die ganze Welt hat schon vor einiger Zeit kapiert, dass mit Abomodelle mehr Geld zu verdienen geht. Ich nutze die App einige Male im Jahr, je nach Abbokosten, wird man sehen, ob ich beim alten Modell bleibe oder, ob ich zum Abbomodell wechsel, oder vielleicht eine ganz andere App benutze. Eines kann ich hier schon sagen: Locus Maps ist eine der besten Apps auf meinem Mobiltelefon! LG Steffen
Thank you Steffen! It is exactly as you say - if you use Locus just a few times a year, you can do with the Locus Map Pro (resp. Classic)
Presel jsem na ios a Locus jsem casto pouzival na vylety a kesky. Co ted?
Bohužel, rovnocennou aplikaci v iOS prostředí neznáme. Možná snad Viewranger. Locus Map pro iOS v nejbližší budoucnosti neplánujeme.
I bought the premium version and in a moment I will no longer have the version I paid for. This is the most common scam. I hate subscriptions and advertising. I bought the Premium version to appreciate peogrammers, but also to have peace of mind with the unpleasant clutter of applications with ads. When I bought the software, nobody said that the premium version was time-limited. This is not fair!!!
Hi Daro,
you probably bought the Pro version as the Premium subscription is not available yet. The Pro version is a single payment app and you can use it as long as you need. It will be updated and maintained as before. Premium subscription is just another way how to get the most enhanced features of the app (plus something more, of course)
Dobrý den, chtěl bych se zeptat zda bude aplikace Locus Map Pro fungovat na mém huawei P30 lite? A ještě bych se rád zeptal, zda mi budou fungovat mapy, které mám stažené ve free verzi i ve verzi Pro abych je nemusel znovu platit.
Dobrý den, Locus Map Pro funguje na všech současných Android přístrojích s Google službami. Free a Pro aplikace sdílejí mapy mezi sebou, takže pokud použijete stejný účet v Locus Obchodu, nebudete muset mapy znovu kupovat.
For all of you crying here about the subscription model:
- When you buy a (paper) map, you own it. But nobody will maintain, update it.
- Your Locus Pro will run as it runs today, just no more update. ( Just like if the developers would stop developing it.)
- If you have a product, service what you like, go pay for it. If the price is reasonable, I will be happy to pay the subscription!
I am looking forward to the new features, such as:
- Web version, especially for route planning, adding points and details, track cleanup. These are hard on mobile
- More and better smartwatch support
Thanks Adam for your support! Just one detail - Locus Map Pro will go on to be updated and maintained as Locus Classic, albeit the updates will not mean adding some significantly innovative features.
Hodně štěstí s předplatným. Děkuji za dosavadní práci a tímto se loučím.
Děkujeme, a loučit se není třeba. Váš Locus Map Pro bude fungovat i nadále, včetně údržby a pravidelných aktualizací. Akorát bohužel nevyužijete možnost synchronizace s jiným zařízením nebo ukládání tras do cloudu. Ale to se dá obejít pomocí zálohování do Dropboxu nebo Google Drive.
Locus ist fixer Bestandteil meiner Outdoor-Aktivitäten (MTB, Schitouren Wander, ...).
Es gibt sehr viele gute Karten, die Wetterinformationen sind gut integriert UND der Batterieverbrauch ist wirklich gering. Für all das habe ich vor Jahren 7 Euro (glaube ich) bezahlt. Davon kann man keine App bzw Infrastruktur auf Jahre finanzieren.
Ich werde sicher die neue Lösung versuchen und diese subskribieren.
Wenn die Ankündigungen halten, was versprochen wird, bin ich dabei samt Abomodell.
Wenn nicht, kündige ich das Abo und verwende die "Classic" Version.
Die kann jetzt schon alles was ich je brauchen werde.
Warte schon täglich auf die Lösung und bin sehr gespannt :-)
Hoerbie, thanks for the support and kind words!
👍
Map ke bare mein jankari chahie
Hi if you need any information please contact our support team at https://help.locusmap.eu/ticket/add.
Hallo LocusMap-Team
Die geplante Änderung zur längerfristigen Finanzierung dieses Projektes kann ich gut nachvollziehen. Bei der Qualität, die mir LM seit Jahren bietet, wäre ich sofort bereit, die bisherigen Zahlungen für die Pro-Version auch jedes Jahr zu leisten. Selbst das preiswerteste Tool, welches ich auf Wanderungen nutze, ist teurer.
Schon wäre es, wenn das Modell der Familien-Bibliothek, also die Nutzung in einer Familie wir bestehen bliebe, und wenn wir die Entwicklungs-Roadmaps mit aktualisierten Daten im Verlauf sehen könnten.
Ich wünsche euch einen guten Start mit V.4 und bleibe dabei.
Important question because I want to buy a smartwatch: Will your smartphone app support new features like sensors with the paid pro app, too? The answer is responsible for uying an Samsung ore Garmin. If you still really support buyers in the future I will buy a Samsung. If you force people who buyed your app half a year ago to pay money again I will go back to Oruxmaps and buy a watch with Android wear.
How long exactly will you support the pro app at least with needed updates? 1, 2, 10 years? I bought livetime. It's a shame that developers change the meaning of "lifetime" with just throwing away a working an loved app just to make more money.
I'm very disapointet regarding abo model and you stopping real support for a paid expensive app. Buyers should not need to think about loosing such support. I won't need cloud and things like that. But I would like to get new functions in the watch apps etc..
Locus pro is already very expensive. The app costed 10€. All other services would cost extra. You already have inn-app payments via the maps. But I paid it half a year ago to support the developers and get advertised livetime support. Now I will loose new features just after half a year. Sorry I call this scam, too. You should at least give buyers new features for some time, too. You advertised livetime.
Another question: Will you make aggressive "advertisement" for the abo in the pro app itself? I bought the pro app for my parents and some more older people as a carefree solution. Locusmaps pro with openandromaps was easier to use as Oruxmaps for them. If they see messages "they have to pay to still get cool features" I'm afraid they could pay again even if they don't need it.
It's a shame that I paid more than 60€ for some people to get a carefree lifetime solution - only to ask questions like here and teach people I love how not to loose money for an app I already paid for them.
Hi John,
- smartwatch add-ons - a continuation of the development is planned after the Locus Map 4 is released and initial operations are finalized. The exact time is not known at the moment.
- length of support of Locus Classic - not defined or limited
- losing Locus Classic support - we don't plan to stop support of Locus Classic
- "(...) throwing away a working an loved app just to make more money" - selling single payment apps is not sustainable for our team. Staying with this would mean the end of our company and the absolute end of any Locus support.
- "Will you make aggressive “advertisement” for the abo in the pro app itself?" - no, nothing aggressive. The decision to stay with the original app or subscribing to the new app is only on the user.
Ich liebe Locus. Es ist die beste Nav-App, die ich kenne. Von Könnern/Kennern programmiert und mit tip-top Workflow ausgestattet.
Wenn Version 4 hält, was Version 3.5 Pro bietet, bin ich dabei.
Ist es möglich, für einige Zeit beide Versionen gleichzeitig auf dem Smartphone zu haben? Damit meine ich nicht die gleichzeitige Verwendung, sondern die gleichzeitige Installation auf einem Gerät, um sich dann zu entscheiden, welche Version man behalten will.
Beste Grüße, Alexander
Hi Alexander, yes, both versions can be installed at once.
I use this fantastic app (Pro version) for years now and I am very satisfied about it.
It costs me €7.99 and in my opinion too cheap.
What is the roll-out planning?
Jan
Hi Jan, a lot of things... web route planner, personal cloud track/route library, cloud data synchronization, many app improvements - new UI, enhanced route planner, built-in router... the full report of what is coming will be released soon.
Dobrý den, kdy je plán vydání Locus Map 4 ?
Děkuji
Dobrý den, můžeme již říct, že v řádu týdnů.
Good luck with the new development, I look forward to seeing it. Hope the subscription is quite low!
Thanks Maarkkk!
Did I read PC screen? This would be great - planning a tour natively with Locus on PC (without BlueStacks) and use it outdoor on my mobile phone!
Yes, exactly - planning on PC (or MAC ;)), seamless sync with Locus Map on the phone.
Hi,
looking forward to the new versions, even with subscriptions.
Will syncing also possible with own servers (hosted somewhere or on a NAS)?
I am using Pro on two phones (one of them as Navi replacement) and a tablet for planning. Will I be able to run them with a single subscription?
Greetings
Phil
Hi Phil, the sync will be possible only via our server. One subscription will cover any number of devices running the same Locus Store account.
Dobry den,
premyslim jeslti kupit Locus Map Pro, anebo pockat na Locus 4, od kdy bude nove verze ?
Dekuji Pawel
LM 4 plánujeme vydat nejpozději do konce března. Pokud do té doby zakoupíte LM Pro, asi nebude problém se pak domluvit na refundaci. Každopádně uživatelé LM Pro získají na první rok předplatného výraznou slevu.
Erst mal danke für die bisherige Arbeit! Bei meinen letzten Radreisen in Schottland, der Schweiz und zwei halbjährigen Reisen in den USA konnte ich mich voll und ganz auf Locus Map (und brouter) verlassen.
Die Verwendung von Locus am PC im Browser steht auf meiner Wunschliste ganz oben! Ich bin nicht überrascht, dass Ihr das jetzt entwickeln wollt, denn man merkt Locus Map an, dass es von Praktikern entwickelt wurde. Auch andere Funktionen wie die Verwendung von Kartenmaterial aus verschiedenen Quellen, Kalibrierung von Bildern und die Möglichkeit, Dateien als Anhang für Punkte zu speichern sind sicher von Praktikern. Was ich auch gut finde: Es gibt verschiedene Möglichkeiten, Routen zu erzeugen und jeder kann diejenige verwenden, die zu seiner Arbeitsweise passt.
Jetzt bin ich sehr gespannt und freue mich auf die neue Entwicklung, die ich vielleicht dann bald ausprobieren kann und die mir dann die Planung meiner nächsten größeren Tour sehr erleichtern wird, die ich in zwei Jahren in Asien starten möchte (hoffentlich!).
Heiner, thank you for your kind words! We wish you good luck on your travels!
Ich bin gespannt und freue mich auf eure neu Version! Bisher bin ich absolut begeistert und nutze die App für Radtouren und Wanderungen. Herzlichen Dank für eure hervorragende Kartesoftware!
Hi Helmut, thank you for your support!
Ich werde definitiv kein Abo abschließen.
MfG
Jürgen Hübner
Hi Jürgen, OK, no problem. You can stay with Locus Map Pro, we'll go on maintaining it for you.
I really love Locus Pro and I will give the subscription model a try. Based on costs and functions I will decide what ist best for me.
Planning routes on pc screen is what I am missing most.
Any chance version 4 will be released during summer 21?
Hi Peter,
now we can say yes, the first edition of LM4 will be released very soon, most probably in early spring.
Alles was mit Abo zu tun hat lehne ich ab. Ausser der Betrag wäre extrem niedrig. Es kann daher gut sein, das ich mich von Locus verabschieden muss.
Hi Thomas, you can always stay with Locus Map Pro - we will go on maintaining it for you.
Brauche der neue Version 4 nicht, werde sie mir aber trotzdem besorgen. Einfach weil ihr es verdient!!!! Die App ist super und den Support genau so. Danke da für!!
Hi Ryan, thank you for your kind words and support!
Hallo Locus Team,
ich nutzte Locus Pro seit jahren auf 2 Geräten.
Auch ich möchte mich bei Euch für eure nicht nachlassende Weiterentwicklung der Software bedanken. Ich benutze die App für meine Trainingsläufe und zum Wandern.
Ich bin grundsätzlich kein Freund von Abo's. Ich miete auch nichts. Wenn ich was brauche kaufe ich es.
Bei Locus würde ich evtl. eine Ausnahme machen, wenn die Kosten nicht so hoch werden.
Statt einmalig 10 €, wäre ich bereit jedes Jahr 10 € zu zahlen.
Ich hoffe Ihr geht nicht den Weg von Komoot, Outdooraktiv oder Alltrails. Die verlangen, wie abgesprochen alle 30 € pro Jahr. Deswegen benutze ich diese Apps nicht.
Gruß
Jürgen
HI Jürgen, the subscription details and prices haven’t been definitely stated yet.
Will there be any chance of getting a "fair use" subscription model?
Like: I will buy one year (365 days) worth of usage and activate/deactivate the premium features on demand?
HI Jack, the subscription details and prices haven't been definitely stated yet.
Is there any option to join an Early Access/Beta testers program? I am eager to try out the new web interface! :D
HI Adam, try it https://web.locusmap.app/
the update you sent caused my Kyocera to lose all my maps and ability to reload them. Thanks for nothing!
It was definitely not caused by Locus Map. Rather, this happens due to various system cleaners. Please exclude Locus Map from your phone system cleaning. Or, if you had the main Locus directory on the SD card and the SD card is malfunctioning, Locus installer didn't find (or recognize) it and made a new clean installation. Your remark that you "Lose ability to reload them (maps)" could mean that. Please contact our support team at https://help.locusmap.eu/ticket/add for further instructions.
Здравствуйте! Спасибо за то что вы делаете! Понимаю, чтобы проект не загнулся и развивался нужен постоянный доход, поэтому поддерживаю вашу политику.
4 Локус это очень хорошо, новый интерфейс, функции. Но есть одна серьёзная проблема которая остается нерешенной - конвертирование карт. Напишите пожалуйста конвертер который бы преобразовал различные форматы карт в т. ч. ozf, потому что сейчас этот процесс достаточно трудоемок. Такое приложение готов приобрести. Спасибо.
Hi Артём,
thank you for your support.
As for the map conversion - any ideas that users want to be implemented, go through a voting process at help.locusmap.eu. Please place your idea there and see if it has support of other users. If there is a greater demand for it, we'll think about its implementation.
Thanks Locus team for your great work! I think its a cool idea not to fill locus app with a new features, let it live separately in the new app. Good luck to your team!
I loved, buyed and used Locus Map for many years now.
One of the main advantage of Locus is its ability to be used completely without any internet connection. I love to plan my treks in the wild while I'm on my way.
I sync everything with "syncthing" to my NAS, so nothing gets lost. It works great for me, I don´t need any cloud services. And I don´t like to share my data with anybody.
I hate clouds and companys that force their customers to use their cloud. They collect my data if I want or not. Everything has to be uploaded and synced with the cloud. We all know that many times our data gets lost or compromised. What an awful development.
Hi Michael, thank you for purchasing Locus Map Pro. We will go on maintaining and updating it for you. Michal, Locus team
Good for you. But I've purchased the program and my decision was based on your promise of lifetime update guarantee. As a matter of fact I bought your license twice as the first license was lost due to some middleman bankruptcy and the second I've bought in the Google store.
Now you're gonna break your promise and break the law of contract. I don't care how you are going to explain it to your clients but I want my money back and I don't want to have anything to do with any people that break contracts. Done it once, they will do it again.
Over the years I've recommended your program to many friends and now I'll have to apologise for that!
Hi Andrew,
1) there is no such promise or even a contract guaranteeing lifetime updates. There is only a lifetime license for Locus Map Pro (by Google's terms of use).
2) Locus Map Pro has not finished - its maintenance and updating is going on
Wish you a nice day
Michal, Locus team
I downloaded the free google play v3.5 from your gdrive. For some reason it doesn't get installed. the installer throws an error.
Also I started using the v4. After logging in I can't see the maps I bought back in v3.x. Is it a bug?
Hi Pawel, next time please contact our helpdesk at help.locusmap.eu.
1) we need more info - what exactly happens? Any error message appears?
2) do you use the same map directory as in LM 3? Are the maps LoMaps or maps from another provider? If the latter, use the same Locus Store account - the maps are encrypted by it.
Will there be ads if I don't pay a subscription?
Michael
yes, there are ads in the free version.
Rebekah earned her diploma cum laude in Marketing from the University of North Georgia.
And after all these talking about the best possible business model you came up with a free version with ads and a pro version that needs a subscription. Now that's thinking out of the box! And who cares if this model implies that the vast majority of occasional users will be paying to keep the price down for a minority of pro actors possibly making money with the app. You want to make me pay for what I consume? Then go for the same model your cloud providers use and make me pay a pro feature for the minutes I use it not for one year up front.
This whole subscription model is the last cry of a dying rotten world. First, you tried to persuade us to buy your products ten times. Now, you're forcing us.
The harder you push the faster the alternative.
Mario, please, let me correct you a little bit. There is no "pro version that needs a subscription". There is a single-payment Pro version available at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=menion.android.locus.pro. It is still maintained and updated. For the "occasional users" of Locus Map 4, there is the monthly subscription that you can always cancel before auto-renewal. Moreover, we are preparing time vouchers for those who forget to cancel subscription before auto-renewal.
Same here. I bought pro app. But the subscription method it's no go for me. I even buy new versions of maps (that some kind of subscription) but pay monthly will not work.
Hi, thank you for purchasing Locus Map Pro. We'll go on maintaining and updating it for you.
The problem I have with subscription models is that the balance of risk and cost is too high on the part of the consumer: you end up paying typically 4x as much versus say paying for a major version upgrade every few years, but unlike when there is a known major upgrade, there's now only a promise of unknown features *maybe* appearing, and a lot of features that do then appear are trendy stuff, social bla bla cloud bla bla, that every other app copies from each other (don't even get me started on how each nav app is becoming a silo of info). How many truly innovative and genuinely useful to navigation features are being created in any nav app nowadays? Very few, it's all mostly fluff. I wish you best of luck, but reckon you will need a clear road map of proposed features and a sensible fee if this is going to be popular